It has resulted in a LOT of additional work for packagers and maybe some got tired a bit. Versions, I now that it’s also a result of the big changes between EL6 and EL7 with the move to systemd. *good = a package which is reproducible, upgradable, secure, debugable, maintainable and probably 10 other features everyone silently expects from EPEL packages versus some one who did a tar2rpmĪre they Red Hat paid people? If so it confirms my impression that EPEL is not seen very important by Red Hat.Īs I did and still do a lot of packages which should build on multiple EL So it is easier to just grab someone elses and YOLO. However building *good containers makes modularity look easy. They are especially that way for laggard operating systems like Enterprise Linux or LTS versions.Ħ) Building *good rpms is hard. ![]() ĥ) Many upstreams have gone whole-hog into containers and will only work with/deal with the set of tools in their container versus in RPMs or debs. You need more and more packages in the repo as ‘buildrequires’ or ‘install’ but are not ‘leaf nodes’ like say squirrelmail.Ĥ) Most people who ‘maintain’ the package in Fedora see that as a full time job already and dealing with EPEL issues/complaints is added unpaid work they don’t care less for. ‘retired to management’ at their respective jobs.Ģ) Usage has grown greatly with the expectation that what is in EL6 will be in EL7 will be in EL8.ģ) Package complexity has grown exponentially. However for the last 5 years (so even before EL8) the need has gotten worse:ġ) The core maintainers who pushed EL6 and EL7 have been increasingly Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 77ĮPEL has always been in the need of more people who can volunteer time to help maintain and package things. Netscape navigator (in its time), cvs (in its time and still here), subversion, squirrelmail, mailman 2 to name few. PS Not everything that paces fast with new “releases” and which releases security patches even more often (yes, I look at you, Mozilla firefox and thunderbird) is “pretty much dead”. Yes I had to do this kind of homework when I was rebuilding webmail services. But they actively support what it is now, and in my estimate it will not be phased out in any observable future. ![]() ![]() As I said in another comment: they do not do new development. Latest you can download works with PHP 7. Where you can see year 2021 stable version snapshots. It is not actively developed, no new featured are added for quite some time.
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